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Message: [QUOTE="Leofric, post: 46082, member: 2848"] I would recommend that you use a different author Jim Lahey's no knead bread is great for beginners. If your bread doesn't hold its shape after the second rise it may have too much hydration or not enough gluten development, we would need to know the recipe and your proofing times. As for sticky or dry for the second proofing depending on the dough it should be smooth and A little sticky but not dry. It can take time figuring out what the dough should feel like at the different stages. [/QUOTE]