Changed from bread machine to dough maker

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Hi I have been using a bread machine for years with the same recipe for egg enriched challah bread 230g strong flour scant cup water 1tsp salt 1 dessert spoon sugar 7grams dried yeast set machine to dough then leave for about 8hours then add 230g flour 1tsp salt 1 dessert spoon sugar 50g butter and 2eggs set machine to dough when done knock it back put on bread tray prove for 1hour then bake for 25mins at 190c no problem but now purchased a dough machine used the same recipe and method but bread comes out flatter tastes the same what do you think I am doing wrong
 

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Hi I have been using a bread machine for years with the same recipe for egg enriched challah bread 230g strong flour scant cup water 1tsp salt 1 dessert spoon sugar 7grams dried yeast set machine to dough then leave for about 8hours then add 230g flour 1tsp salt 1 dessert spoon sugar 50g butter and 2eggs set machine to dough when done knock it back put on bread tray prove for 1hour then bake for 25mins at 190c no problem but now purchased a dough machine used the same recipe and method but bread comes out flatter tastes the same what do you think I am doing wrong
I would try some stretch and folds for the mixing machine.
Gluten doesn't do much if you don't develop it.
 
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Hi put half the flour salt sugar and yeast set the dough machine to 15 mins to start then left it for 8 hours to make the bigger then added the other flour eggs and butter set to dough for 15 mins again then knocked it back let it prove for 1 hour then baked do you think I'm mixing for to long or to short a time
 
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Bread machines mix the ingredients as well as heat the mixture with various programmed settings. Not familiar with something called a 'dough maker', but if only mixes the ingredients, it wouldn't surprise me the same recipe yields different results.

Have owned a few different brands of bread machines over the years and none of them work as well as using a good stand mixer and then letting it proof in your oven. Several of the bread recipes I use start by mixing yeast/water/sugar/flour and then letting it sit in the refrigerator overnight. The next morning you actually make the rest of the recipe.
 
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Bread machines mix the ingredients as well as heat the mixture with various programmed settings. Not familiar with something called a 'dough maker', but if only mixes the ingredients, it wouldn't surprise me the same recipe yields different results.

Have owned a few different brands of bread machines over the years and none of them work as well as using a good stand mixer and then letting it proof in your oven. Several of the bread recipes I use start by mixing yeast/water/sugar/flour and then letting it sit in the refrigerator overnight. The next morning you actually make the rest of the recipe.
You can set the proving time on the machine but I will try that thanks
 

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